#NewYorkCity’s is continuing to flounder in the wake of the Covid-19 pandemic —and most city-dwellers have flocked to southern states, the US #CensusBureau #population revealed.
It may only be 5.3% but I bet it’s much more than that in tax base lost.
NYC lost 5.3% of its population — nearly a half-million people — since COVID, with most heading South (nypost.com) The real sad story is that 94.7% were too stupid to leave!
Little do the people remaining realize for whatever reason, that THEY will be carrying
the FINANCIAL BURDEN of ALL of the cost of what it takes to run a city. Will they only awaken to REALITY, when their HOSPITAL IS BANKRUPT & shuts down? Or when they lose a family member, or a child is kidnapped or ODs on fentanyl or someone is murdered?
Can’t Blame them. And they are taking their wealth with them.
New York City will have to raise Taxes and fees on the poor working slobs $tuck there.
In a Shit hole city that smells like sewage and weed with a felon around each corner, with high prices, bad weather, what’s not to like…..oh, I forgot the hospitable lunatics who run the state there. It is really wonderful to see.
The stench starts with farts in Manhattan from Bragg and Prosecutors where no bail
and defund police tatters shout out while crime spikes, then you find poop in the streets everywhere Eric walks as he cries for help for too many Biden aliens, but Erica never tells Biden to stop, then we have a full diarrhea when Gov. Kathy Hochul and your so-called
AG Letitia James continue killing the entire state bylaws against citizens, fraudulent elections, violence encouraged and so many lives snuffed out. There are reasons that
NYC smells these days, and it is because of WOKE politicians!
Governor Hochul Announces $8 Million Now Available
for New Climate Smart Community Projects Wokeness is a very serious illness.
Its cause and effect is wide ranging. Soon only 100% imbeciles will reside there with illegals taking their jobs away for a third of the price. If you want to see stupid watch
New York state. The ones who moved are not unemployed immigrants, they were taxpayers, and some were big time taxpayers. They leave because of high crime,
taxes and worries about kids going to school in New York.
Goodbye N.Y.C.
They don’t care they shipwreck your city.It’s what the Dumbasses voted for, so no sympathy given out here!
BUT DON’T WORRY THEY WiLL PICK UP 5 MILLION NEW Illegal VOTES.
That’s the entire reason for the flood of illegals. New democrat voters.
Citizens have the same authority and rights as police. Citizens must form coalitions
and arrest evil swamp politicians and hold them for trial by a patriot judge and jury.
If they attempt to escape or harm us or by others we use deadly force.
The Constitution protects citizens from tyrannical govt.
And This is a tyrannical government.
It is our God given right and duty to defend ourselves against tyranny and a treasonous govt. The time has come, we must engage against a tyrannous FBI, CIA, DHS, White House, etc. All branches are corrupt and disregard the Law of the Land & The Constitution of the United States. These Crooks shouldn’t be above the law. They don’t get to make up their own rules. We the People must rise and defend ourselves. Let’s do it already! God save us!
The DA Alvin the Chipmunk’s office is a disgrace letting killers out of jail. People getting hurt on the subway then you have that jackass Mayor what do you expect? Let’s not forget sanctuary city the place is a mess we need to get those Democrats out of office as soon as possible they do not care about the people the only thing they care about is staying in office and embezzling a lot of money they destroyed our city and as for the governor,
Elvira she’s no good either another scam artist!
If you’re going to post these stories, then tell the WHOLE/entire story Yes, ppl sees moving from states like NY, Cali etc.. But there’s also just as many ppl moving TO those states, as well. And if you owned a home for numerous years, like my aunt, you made a NIIICE profit! FYI…rents in those states are still high & still being occupied. Both parties act & use the same BS tactics. IMO, we need to get rid of these corrupt two-party systems & have term limits!
One day when all the working people and businesses have left NYC, the only people
there will be welfare recipients. They will continue to vote for Democrats until the Dem politicians leave because there are no tax dollars to steal. Then they will pass laws to give themselves a million handouts but suddenly it will dawn on them that all the people with money have left. The real question is if Dems leaving California and New York will vote Democrat in their new locations. These people who vote Dem are carriers of a dangerous virus that we cannot afford to allow to spread. Will the FBI be monitoring the migration of these individuals who threaten the future of the nation?
Population Decline Will Change the World for the Better – Scientific American
The American scientific journal Scientific American published an article by Stephanie Feldstein, Director of biodiversity charity celebrates population decline as it will help governments meet climate change goals – The Expose (expose-news.com) The author explains in detail why the future will be happier if there are fewer people.
AFTER READING THIS ARTICLE I THOUGHT THAT Stephanie Feldstein SHOULD DIE FIRST and lead by example – problem solved. Why the world would be happier with fewer people by Stephanie Feldstein – Bing video
Frank Sinatra New York song – Bing video “Start spreadin’ the news…we’re leavin’ today. No matter what we do…you’ll get your way…? Soon we will wake up in a place where we are Free. It took a long time, but we’re Free indeed…!(edited)
Looks like more and more are getting ‘fed-up’ with the BS in NYC…!
The problem for most of these escape’s they bring their shitty politics with them, why?
It’s simple, they only please themselves! Good place for Brandon’s illegal aliens. MS13 will love the concrete jungle and the former NY cop turned mayor will keep the crime rate high so the demonic-rats will have fun after dark. N.Y.C. will become a paradise for the demonic-rats who love satan and his lies, imho.
Most are incapable of learning selfishness produces selfishness. Within a short time its regulation after regulation, taxes go up, new courthouses, new attorneys creating new laws to justify their existence, and magically the same BS they escaped from destroys another community. And the reverse is true when illegal come across the borders it is much easier to destroy freedom than to create it. You want division, hatred, mandates, schools with woke teachers? Escape’s aren’t coming to be a part of you, but to selfishly take what is yours. The South doesn’t want them; there is no way to separate them from their entitled mentality.
Don’t go to Florida and fk-up that state like you did in NY. Jacksonville is regressing.
They just got a Democratic mayor. Last time was in 2011. We don’t want Dems moving
to FL. Republicans are welcomed to help us do better. They want workers ~ not Wokers.
HEAVEN HELP THE SOUTH IF THOSE FLEEING NEW YORK ARE DEMOCRATS.
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as in 2022 with 22 towers.
This year will also mark the first supertall building ever to begin construction in Miami, with the Waldorf Astoria Hotel and Residences. At a height of 1,040 feet, the 100-story tower will be the tallest all-residential building south of New York.
Florida migration: Who’s moving to the Sunshine state? New York.
Extraordinary events have forever pushed and pulled and pressured U.S. population shifts from gold lust to the citrus rush to the restless return of WWII soldiers to revolutions in foreign lands and civil war on southern soil.
Now there is COVID-19, which has turned a years-long trickle to Florida from the northeast into a deluge.
More than 547,000 people exchanged out-of-state driver’s licenses last year for ones with Sunshine State addresses. That’s a 40% increase from 2020 and nearly 20% greater than the five-year average between 2017 and 2021.
The license swaps — largely from New York (11%), New Jersey (6%) and foreign countries (14%) — are acutely felt in Florida real estate markets where inventory is anemic and prices aggressive.
New homebuyers beware:
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Demographers believe the relocations are no tropical dalliance because a driver’s license switch is a sign of determination to make Florida home even if hurricane season and August’s sweltering humidity are spent in cooler climes away from storms and sticky air.
“Unquestionably the COVID impact was the trigger,” said Related Cos. President Ken Himmel about the influx of people and businesses to Florida and Palm Beach County specifically. “Unquestionably, COVID turned the switch on full blast.”
While the bullseye markets, such as Palm Beach County, may experience the ache of rising rents and home prices until inventory increases, growth experts were reluctant to say the COVID migration on a nationwide scale will make history.
Some move to the suburbs was already happening as millennials age. A bump in retirees was also expected, although it was likely expedited by the Great Resignation/Retirement, the euphemism signaling massive waves of frustrated workers and Baby Boomers exiting the job market.
Vanderbilt University Assistant Finance Professor Peter Haslag said COVID-related dispersions are more geographically diverse than past migrations, diluting long-term impacts.
Moving to Florida is nothing new
For Florida, migration is tradition.
“Migration to Florida is an old story,” said University of Washington professor and historian James Gregory in an article for America’s Great Migrations Project that noted the early 1900s citrus and land boom in the state. “More than any other state, Florida has consistently attracted newcomers.”
Of the 61,728 New Yorkers who in 2021 handed over Empire State driver’s licenses for a Florida license, 19,100 or 31% got IDs with Broward, Miami-Dade or Palm Beach County Zip codes. Palm Beach County accounted for 8,107 of the transplants, the largest share of any county in the state.
Outside of the Gold Coast counties of Southeast Florida, a weighty exchange of New York licenses last year also occurred in Orange (4,203), Hillsborough (3,746), Lee (2,672), Pinellas (2,335) and Sarasota (2,149) counties.
Sarasota home values skyrocket: Sarasota metro home values went up by a third in 2021, more than double the national average
How much? You won’t believe the total sales at the most expensive condo in Palm Beach County
For native New Yorker Sandford Burian, 59, the reward for his 90-minute commute into the city from Long Island was the entertainment — a ball game or show — a nice dinner and a “zillion corporate events” to partake in after work.
With COVID restrictions shutting down much of the city and most people working
from home, the recompense for the daily slog into Manhattan was gone, he said.
Burian and his wife Heidi, 58, recently bought a home in the Avenir community in
Palm Beach Gardens and plan to become Florida residents. A home already sold under construction in the Windgate subdivision in Avenir, in Palm Beach Gardens, Wednesday, January 26, 2022.
“Maybe you were coming home late but there were these big, unique experiences
you had every day in the city,” said Burian, who is renting a home in West Palm Beach
until the Avenir residence is finished this summer. “None of that exists now.
It makes the tolerance for the commute even harder.”
When Burian’s job as a management and technology consultant went remote, Florida’s better weather and tax benefits beckoned. The pushback from younger employees about returning to offices full time made Burian dubious about what the future holds for New York City.
“We saw how much the pandemic devastated New York City and I’m not sure I want
to be around for the recovery or for how long that recovery will take,” he said. “Unless the working model literally reverted back to what it was traditionally where everyone had to be in the office every day, I don’t think people are going back.”
In early 2021, the Partnership for New York City sent a letter to New York state lawmakers warning that 300,000 city residents of “higher income neighborhoods” had filed for a change of address with the U.S. Postal Service and that Florida, Texas, North Carolina and Maryland were aggressively pursuing New York companies.
“The top 5% of earners pay 62% of state personal income taxes,” the letter said.
“These high earners do not want to abandon New York, but at some point, it does
not make sense to stay where the business climate is deteriorating, and costs are rising.”
Moving to Florida ‘feels liberating’
After selling a home in Darien, Connecticut, and moving full time to a second home in the Hamptons, Tom and Cricket Cush decided Florida was where they wanted to settle. While the beaches and sunshine are a main attraction, Tom said he feels the “spirit and attitude” in Florida during COVID has been more optimistic than in New York.
“It’s a glass is half full,” said Cush, who is building a home in West Palm Beach.
“I will tell you as a born and bred New Yorker, coming down here, it feels liberating.”
He echoed Burian’s lament of the long commute into New York but said it was something he did for more than two decades because that’s what everyone did, and other options were limited. “The pandemic changed that perspective for a lot of people,” he said.
West Palm Beach fit for the couple because they enjoy boating and it has cosmopolitan amenities such as the Norton Museum of Art, tony restaurants and a busy downtown.
The things they enjoyed; they can still relish “with the added advantage of the weather” Cush said.
Finding an affordable home: No matter what region in Florida,
it’s getting harder to find that magical $250,000 house
Florida counties where people are moving
Miami-Dade County took the top spot for the most license swaps with 48,266. Of those, half were from “foreign countries.” Following Miami-Dade County were Hillsborough (36,626), Orange (35,582), Broward (34,084), and Palm Beach (33,859).
Jeff Lichtenstein, owner and broker of Echo Fine Properties, which helped Burian find a home in Avenir, said competition from transplants means new communities are getting myriad reservations on homes before ground is even broken.
“The strategies a buyer has to go through now are just insane,” he said. “We’re figuring out on the front end what the seller wants, what the agent wants when we write offers. We’re pre-booking inspections, filling out all the forms and doing all the things they are going to ask for.”
Peter Haslag, the Vanderbilt University professor, released a study in October titled “From L.A. to Boise: How Migration has Changed during the COVID-19 Pandemic.” – Search (bing.com)
Boise, Idaho’s state capital city, has consistently ranked over the past year as the most overvalued housing market in the nation as remote workers flocked to an area revered for its outdoor activities and considered one of the “best cities to raise a family.”
Haslag said a permanent change in peoples’ lifestyle preferences has occurred and that the shifts in populations are unlikely to reverse in the near future.
“I don’t have anyone calling me saying they want to move back to New York,” said Douglas Elliman Realtor Joseph Wagner, who spent most of the pandemic in Florida and is licensed in Florida and New York. “Some people miss it, but most of them just want to have a spare bedroom in New York and live in Florida.”
Rising housing prices not a steal? Who cares, say transplants.
Wagner said that while buyers know they aren’t getting a deal with their Florida real estate purchases, it’s still cheaper than buying and living in New York. “It’s a seller’s market. They don’t care,” he said. “They just don’t want to pay New York state taxes.”
Wagner was reluctant to share names of his New York clients.
In early January, letters asking “woke” New Yorkers to leave Florida were put on cars in Palm Beach that had New York license plates. The notices — written in capital letters — read: “If you are one of those ‘woke’ people — leave Florida.
You will be happier elsewhere, as will we.”
Chris Porter, chief demographer at John Burns Real Estate Consulting, said he’s heard anecdotally on a national level some tension between locals and newcomers but it’s been focused on the increasing prices, not politics.
Cush said he’s felt no tension. He said he was careful to tell his new neighbors about the plans for the property he bought and said he hopes long-time residents are patient with the changes. “Maybe they’ll even appreciate it a little that their property values will go up,” Cush said.
Top 10 heading to Florida
Foreign countries made up the largest license exchanges in Florida last year with 46,370. That was followed by New York’s 42,224, and New Jersey’s 32,083.
Statewide, California ranked fourth highest in the number of driver’s license exchanges in 2021 with 27,081 — a notable 43% higher than the 5-year average and 55% higher than 2020.
Illinois, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Texas, Ohio and Virginia rounded out the top 10 of most license swaps. All were higher than the 5-year average.
Nearly 1,900 of the 2021 California changes were made to Palm Beach County addresses. While that’s small compared to the number from the northeast, it’s 51% higher than the 5-year average and 63% higher than 2020.
New York transplant Burian said despite the dispersed migration nationwide, he believes South Florida will feel a profound impact from the northeast newcomers who may have different — if not more expensive — demands and bigger checkbooks for donations to the arts and charities.
“I think a lot of affluence is coming down here and the heavy hitters are moving down and the qualitative demands of these people are huge,” Burian said. “The question is what’s going to happen to New York.”
Who’s moving here?
A COVID-19 exodus from the Northeast had more people exchange out of
state driver’s licenses for Florida IDs last year compared to the 5-year average.
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