I fell into the Rabbit Hole myself late 2005 into 2006.
When My Father died of Leiomyosarcoma on April 3, 2006, after his 14 years
of battling various types of cancer and the final battle with Leiomyosarcoma.
My Severe Depression is best described as following into a Dark Rabbit Hole and when you finally feel like you have climbed out of it. You fall deeper back into it and best to say until I finally changed my mindset I finally conquered this selfish state of mind. Cancer
in the family really does change you in the beginning, in the midst and in the aftermath.
Ter Beek, who once aspired to be a psychiatrist, has been dealing with mental health struggles throughout her life. Therefore, This is simply sickening.
That someone will help with an assisted suicide and it’s wrong! It’s murder.
no different than someone overdosing on pills because they want the escape from depression, etc. But why shouldn’t someone be able to choose when they want to die? I’d rather be able to choose than have it happen after a long period of pain and suffering when the chances of getting “better” are slim to none.
Stephanie Breithe Cara Byers
I’ve heard the stories of people suffering day after day without any relief, who are actively seeking to obtain a medically assisted end of life. It’s heartbreaking. And I hold a lot more grace and nuance for them in their choice than I used to. Nobody makes this choice lightly or just because. It’s excruciating. They are the ones who have to live every day in their bodies. Nobody else does. It can be an ethical choice for a few. And it’s actually really hard to get approved for this medically. Very, very few see it through. It’s sometimes just the control over their own lives they need, just knowing they have the option if they choose. Until we have walked in their shoes, we really have no clue.
Reserve judgment for those who do harm to others.
Nikki Marie
We don’t know her life-long medical history from an article written, only what little was published. We don’t know how many doctors she’s seen, how many different medications she’s tried, if she’s changed her diet, if she’s prayed it away everyday, etc. All a lot of you are gathering is “she’s giving up”, “she didn’t try hard enough”, “she should get another opinion”, “she should turn it to Jesus”
I actually am for assisted in-a living. I wish it were legal everywhere in the US so the medical community would stop bleeding people dry when ill and let them gracefully bow out if they wish. The Netherlands saved 8000+ families from possible financial loss, loss
of quality of life, mental health issues due to health problems, etc…the American medical community would have drug those 8000+ families thru the mud financially, given them meds that break down their bodies more rapidly, cause all kinds of mental health decline, etc.
I worked in healthcare for 12 years. Worked closely with hospice patients in both hospital and nursing home settings. Held numerous hands of people that their families never visited, wiped tears away from scared, lonely humans that were dying, consoled patients
in so much pain they couldn’t move, watched mental health documentaries. After suicide
I’d like to think some of those people would have liked to have had a different choice.
I’d much rather choose to die with dignity, assisted rather than scared and alone because
I didn’t have the option.
Patricia McMahon Guy
I have battled crippling episodes of depression and anxiety multiple times in my life and
if this option had been available then I would not be here today. I am grateful that this was not an option and that I am still alive and if I get sick again, I truly hope that this would not be a solution that was offered to me. You’re right though …. the provision for mental health is diabolical…drugs, drugs and more drugs that only serve to compound the problem.
I thank God that I came to a saving faith 3 years ago and although I have battled with suicidal depression since then I j ow that the Lord has seen me through these anguished times. I pray that He will do the same for you Christine
The only time I believe in assisted you know….is when someone is terminal, and they
are starting to really go downhill so it is obviously a correct diagnosis. That is death with dignity and not in awful pain. For mental health, it is no different than making you know attempt.
I have clinical depression and anxiety and it is hard to treat because some of it stems from brain trauma from having bacterial meningitis at 18 months old, I have always had it to some degree, so I say this with experience.
Because you have precious children who will have a lifetime of even worse pain if
they lose their mother. Life can be very painful. But our children shouldn’t suffer more pain for our comfort or escape from pain. I know people who had family members commit suicide, they’re still suffering, even years or in some cases, decades later.
It isn’t just about pain. It is not wanted to have to be in a diaper and have someone
change it. It is not wanting family to see them deteriorating, wanting them to remember them somewhat healthy. I wouldn’t do it, but I have seen people in that place and can understand why they would want to.
I’m not talking about the old.
I’m talking about people with terminal illnesses that are showing signs of the end and know their diagnosis is real. When it comes to the elderly there are other things. For instance my grandfather has Alzheimer’s and needed his pacemaker removed and it was decided to just let his time run out as he was already in his mid 80s, and that is different. People with terminal illnesses are so many times able to state their desires and make decisions before it gets to that point.
It should always be an individual’s personal decision.
I’ve seen someone recover from stage 4 terminal cancer who was only given 2-6 months to live. God forbid they took the assisted suicide route and let their bodies deteriorate rather than fight the battle with things known to starve cancer cells and at least give their life a shot. The problem with ever choosing any form of assisted s****** is that it’s taking the will of God out of His hands and into your own. Perhaps the person may die a slow miserable death but they may experience revelations of who He is during that time and have a final lesson in this journey of life.
To cut that short is to possibly miss that opportunity (to even be saved). Yes, someone should be given some comfort meds if they truly are at the end of life but i’ll never agree with taking a lethal dose of anything because miracles take place every day– including for people suffering mental illness and major health issues.
I’ve seen it, I’ve experienced it. It saddens me that people take that route and could possibly miss out on something miraculous or beautiful… which life and death both truly are… naturally speaking.
Why, sometimes mental illness can be related to a deficiency in a certain vitamin like
B vitamins, personally I’d increase my b vitamins before getting euthanized. M.t.h.f.r mutations are so common and many lack those necessary b vitamins. Not only that, but thanks to our deficient soils we are mineral deficient in general and are suffering from mental health issues due to gut disruptions in pesticides/herbicides/ antibiotics, I would address your gut health for anything mental health/depression/mood disorder related. You would be surprised what a huge difference it makes.
The allopathic system can’t and won’t help you, all they know how to do is poison your body with pHARMaceuticals. Mental health problems typically stem from an unhealthy gut biome. Have you tried changing your diet? You might find adding in fermented foods that have been fermented using natural traditional methods help.
I’d change my diet and I feel better, I also have increased my B1 intake which actually opens up the receptors in your brain that make you happy. So yeah there’s lots of shit
like trying walking around barefoot in your yard before going to a dr sometimes being grounded by the earth can actually help to and organic and gluten-free help to so yeah
so much more to do before killing yourself there’s a lot more to do drs can’t help with everything. All illness is that of deficiency or toxicity!!!!
Jason Hommel · in 2014, I was having nearly constant suicidal thoughts.
It declined with my first drop of iodine. Other minerals and vitamins greatly help,
as the research I post in my article shows. The Depression/Suicide Awareness Note – RevealingFraud.com
Natural Solutions For Depression & Anxiety – Freedom & Coffee (freedomandcoffee.com)
I think it’s really sad because there is healing… healing is possible, and she didn’t have to die.
This is so sad to see. Life is such a precious gift, there is so much to do here. There are other methods of healing that are not mainstream that could help. Clearing blockages, bioenergetic testing, diet, support groups, etc… life is very hard, I know it’s hard, but you are here for a reason, there is no way to replace you and the impact you have now and the impact you will have in the future. The electrification of the earth will increase episodes of depression
It’s sad they say she’s ‘physically healthy’, because she’s not.
I’ve come to believe most of what we label ‘mental illness’ is actually physical and can be treated. We live in a very toxic world that is impairing the body’s ability to function properly, as the brain, immune, endocrine and digestive systems, in particular, are malfunctioning due to heavy metals, household chemicals, glyphosate, parasites, plastics, etc. Dr Kelly Brogan has helped many people get free. Own Yourself: The Surprising Path beyond Depression, Anxiety, and Fatigue to Reclaiming Your Authenticity, Vitality, and Freedom: Brogan M.D., Kelly: 9781401956851: Amazon.com: Books
Sherri Krum
A lot of nutrients help to rebalance brain chemistry too. Many people are deficient in
a lot of nutrients so it makes it very difficult for their brains and bodies to manage stress.
Might want to look into that option.
Foodgoddess Carr
Used to be we had no options except sick care. Now we have lots of options to heal anything – see my site foodgoddess50. I recovered from 5 auto immune with no meds
and have no pain. Yes I can Relate – awful
I know people that have taken their lives, they no longer suffer but they will no longer see their kids, family, friends. We all grieve the loss, their pain & suffering and will always bear the guilt that why couldn’t we have helped, No one should suffer and be in pain.
My soul hurts for all that I do. BUT….
I also know people whom if they had this choice would have in a heartbeat said yes to assisted suicide
Whom luckily didn’t have this choice and thankfully never went through with the alternative even though they tried/wanted too
And now the storm has passed, things look brighter
And they are living a more normal happy life
I love the saying
“If you don’t like your life move!
You are not a tree”
A move can be everything
Yes not always easy
But do something to change your pattern routine
That put you where you are now
They say one can not heal when they become sick
Fresh air, sunshine, back to nature, clean water,
lots of fresh fruit and salads,
lightly steamed veg only if you must cook!
Back to basics, back to nature, & back to real live foods
Life is so worth living
In making this decision there is no chance to see the day when she feels better
It’s devastatingly sad that anyone feels this way
I’m so sorry you too feel this way Christine Berg
Do you have family & friends support?
Unfortunately the system’s way of helping is awful.
Can you get away camping, back to nature, eating just raw whole foods as much fruit & veg as you like when you like and lots of clean water, herbal teas, Fresh air, sun & and having time away from your daily routine.
Tommy Wennerstierna
I’m not a doctor, but I do think in some cases that anyone impacted like this should try
to self study this, and some more. It takes a few weeks to to change things, and if it works,
then that’s a start to resolve it long term: gut microbiome mental health – YouTube
Thoughts? She doesn’t want to suffer anymore.
She sought out help, she didn’t get it, and she’s tired. She wants to rest. I feel her pain more than I can put into words.
I’ve been trying to get psych treatment for three years to NO avail and I am declining more and more each day that passes. I’d consider this if it were an option (IF I didn’t have children). Not because it’s what I’d “want” but becauseI’m tired and I can’t find anyone to help. Nobody. Nobody cares… they never do.
I understand and it isn’t a choice I would make.
However, if someone has met very particular criteria and is mentally competent and makes the choice on their own then so be it. We have had it for awhile in Oregon and it doesn’t happen a lot really. While I wouldn’t make that choice. I can understand why someone might want to.
Scripture says judge not lest ye be judged by the same measure. You’re referencing a concept in scripture sorely out of context which I understand but can truly be dangerous. Do you really think Jesus would stand next to her and encourage her to take her own life (with help) and say “go ahead – I don’t judge you” or do you think He would take her into His arms and rescue her from the demonic forces that plague her? I’ve been there. I know what He’d do. He rescued me. And He can do the same for you and could have done the same for her. Satan is a liar and a crafty one. But the Lord is victorious and merciful. And He has already defeated that conniving snake in the grass.
I know sooo many people who have been deep, deep in depression, and even suicidal with multiple failed attempts and have grown and healed past that season in their life and now are incredible happy people with families who love them etc. this just seems heartbreaking… like giving up because you can’t possibly see anything better in the future but that’s what depression does in the moment … seems like a very permanent decision for what could be a “blip” for lack of a better word… in an incredible life when she heals … so hard!
Absolutely. I mean, if God exists, he would be whispering that in her ear to help her not
do it, but it’s going to happen if she wants it to. There’s no stopping someone from doing something they have their mind set on. There’s no wrong way to interfere with God’s will or messages.
She has a choice but that is of her own free will. If Jesus were standing next to her,
He’d do everything he could to stop her. God’s will does not include suicide. Ever.
I hope you don’t believe that for yourself. But from your other comments, I have a bad feeling you’re struggling with demonic forces trying to convince you that what you say is true. It’s absolutely not.
And Jesus loves you. Died for you. And declares victory over your demons and struggles. You are free in Him if you choose to be.
I’ll be praying hard for you. Because I absolutely know what the everyday battle is like.
It’s exhausting but I promise there is life abundant in Christ.
Revelation 20:12-15
And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. (Death- not hell- they die and don’t have an eternal life with God.)
God does judge others lol at least the one in the Bible does and Torah.
He is the judge and He will send ppl to hell. He tells us not to judge because we are
not the judge, however, we are able to correct and call out sin in love of fellow believers and should call sin sin, can we not just agree to disagree? This is inevitably a debatable topic in this world. Everyone suffers with depression differently, and some of us have massively different opinions. We have to respect each other’s opinions because it’s how people feel. That’s the way it is, it’s not going to change no matter how we disagree with each other.
From what we read in the Bible, we know that committing suicide is a sin.
God calls murder sin (Exodus 20:13) and committing suicide is essentially murdering yourself.
Suicide also dishonors the gift of life that is given by God and bought at a price
(1 Corinthians 6:20).
And yet, in the Bible, we still see some people thinking about ending their own lives.
When Elijah was fleeing from Jezebel, he was overwhelmed by the journey and prayed
that he might die (1 Kings 19:4).
Jonah asked God to take away his life, he was angry towards God’s compassion for the Ninevites (Jonah 4:3).
The apostle Paul described his afflictions to be so great that they caused him to be “despaired of life itself” (2 Corinthians 1:8).
Reading these accounts informs us that the Word of God is not indifferent or ignorant towards those who are struggling with the deepest pain, sorrow, anguish and who are in despair.
It shows us that God can still meet and lead His people in these struggles of life and death.
God comforted and provided for Elijah, and later recommissioned him (1 Kings 19).
God rebuked Jonah and explained His heart for the people in Nineveh (Jonah 4).
And God also taught Paul to rely not on himself but on Him (2 Corinthians 1).
The message is clear: there is hope.
We don’t have to come to the point of ending our own lives.
We simply need to trust God and hold on to Him.
I can only imagine the strong feelings and reaction you’re having here is born from some kind of pain. Yes, people have their free will but that doesn’t make this okay. We call one unloving oneself tragic in every other instance. We mourn and cry. Yet someone assisting someone else in unloving themselves is being defended and that’s even worse.
Boniface Mutunga MuliStephanie Breithe Cara Byers madam there’s even a deeper danger that you don’t see yet
it’s the hand of the devil trying to kill people easily; and yes we’ve been there too and we prayed and The Lord Got us out of it; suicide whether assisted or individually done is basically a straight ticket to hell and you don’t wanna get there you’d rather stay alive because on the other side there’s no way out or change of mind…AND I NEED YOU TO CHECK THE STATISTICS; MAJORITY OF THEM TRYING THIS ARE NOT BORN AGAIN; FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT AND SPEAKING WITH OTHER TONGUES
AND WATCH OUT, IF ANY OF THEM WITH THIS QUALIFICATIONS EVER GET THERE THEY ARE SIMPLY NOT LIVING A PRAYERFUL LIFE OR THEY HAVE NO PRAYER PARTNERS…THERE ARE REAL SPIRITUAL ENTITIES CALLED DEVILS THAT WANT HUMAN BEING DEAD BUT BECAUSE THEY CANNOT KILL YOU THEMSELVES
THEY KEEP HEARINGKILL YOURSELF, KILL YOURSELF, END THE MISERY END THE MISERY AND THEY THINK IT’S THEIR MIND TALKING TO THEM BUT IT’S NOT THEY ARE DEVILS: I’VE CAST OUT SO MANY IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST THE LORD I KNOW WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT… IT’S A NEW WORLD ORDER OF DEATH AND HUMAN SACRIFICE…they don’t have to live through it alone; sometimes all it takes is a prayer in the spirit and they’re out.Boniface Mutunga MuliStephanie Breithe Cara Byers Cassandra Patterson except it’s not her choice; the devil is trying to kill her at an early age of 28yrs; that is extreme depression and it’s satanic…and mama if that’s all it takes to kill your own children what do you think God Forbid the devil would do to them to bring them to that decision
; How Would You Feel If She Was Your Biological Daughter Crying Out To You That she’s So Tormented In Mind She Wishes For Death; Would You Tell Her These Exact Words: “Go Ahead And Kill Yourself Your Body Your Choice” THAT’S MODERN DAY SUICIDE PERMISSION PROMOTION IN THE MAKINGAND WITH THIS BEING LEGALIZED YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY PEOPLE DEVIL-DOCTOR’S WILL KILL WITH THAT LEGAL LAW ACTdo you know how many try to die out of depression in Europe and America and Britain just within a yearthe next thing even your very own spouse could write a letter and say you wanted out so he helped you die and maybe you Signed the paper at gunpoint…or under duress…Careful…you don’t sound like a prayerful woman.Except it’s not her choice; the devil is trying to kill her at an early age of 28yrs; that is extreme depression and it’s satanic…and mama if that’s all it takes to kill your own children what do you think God Forbid the devil would do to them to bring them to that decision
; How Would You Feel If She Was Your Biological Daughter Crying Out To You That she’s So Tormented In Mind She Wishes For Death; Would You Tell Her These Exact Words: “Go Ahead And Kill Yourself Your Body Your Choice” THAT’S MODERN DAY SUICIDE PERMISSION PROMOTION IN THE MAKING
AND WITH THIS BEING LEGALIZED YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY PEOPLE DEVIL-DOCTOR’S WILL KILL WITH THAT LEGAL LAW ACTdo you know how many try to die out of depression in Europe and America and Britain just within a yearthe next thing even your very own spouse could write a letter and say you wanted out so he helped you die and maybe you Signed the paper at gunpoint…or under duress…Careful…you don’t sound like a prayerful woman.Mac Taffi
Loving Life is the only treatment necessary. When one’s life is completely devoid of love, and no one cares, when we finally look to God and surrender to Him and His undying love, grace, peace, justice and mercy, we realize that the Kingdom of God is within us and therefore we are never alone. Discernment is a gift. And love becomes not a choice,
but a Presence and a part of consciousness we can all choose to dwell within.
Don’t give up, give in to the Love of God that was with you all along.
Why do you defend euthanizing? I mean we have free will but everything has a consequence and going against the gift of life is something that will affect the soul
in the afterlife. I don’t know why you attacked me but Talk to the hand because
I won’t participate in your negative nelly attitude.
BTW it’s a rhetorical question, it’s not meant for you to answer bc I won’t read it. And yes, I’ve had lows, but God Saved Me.
I’m sorry that my rescue story was so upsetting to you, but I tell it because it’s my testimony, it’s my personal experience with Jesus. And I know that He can save ANYONE should they choose to call His name and ask for help. You’re right, that’s a bold statement. But it’s still true. SOURCE: Physically healthy Dutch woman, 28, decides to be euthanized due to crippling depression (newsbreak.com)
God Bless you and yours.