After the terrible reign of Nero, Vespasian became Emperor following his defeat of the Jews in Judea (leaving the mopping up to his son Titus) in the 1st Century AD and sought to bring back sanity to the city of Rome. His first major job was to obliterate the excesses of Nero’s “Domus Aurea” (Golden House/Palace) and the gardens and lake that filled a prominent position in the city of Rome was his target. Here he was to build the largest and most impressive Amphitheater in the Roman Empire. Sadly, he wasn’t to see it completed, but his son Titus was remembered as the emperor who had its completion recorded by the minting of a coin recognizing the opening of the amazing building.
Showing that the public/plebs of Rome were important to this dynasty, special games were held to celebrate a family of Emperors who cared for the people. Sadly, once Titus died (or was murdered by his brother Domitian) after only two years of his reign, childless, his younger brother took the Flavian dynasty in another direction. Domitian was seen as an autocratic ruler who tried to subdue the role of the Senate but realized the value of spending vast sums of money on spectacular games at the Colosseum to keep the people of Rome on his side.
He was not trusted by the Roman aristocracy who felt that this family of humble origins did not merit the title of Emperor. As often happened in Rome, this Emperor was assassinated, and the Flavian dynasty was done.
But Rome had Vespasian and Titus to thank for this magnificent building which still survives today despite earthquakes and centuries of using the abandoned ruin as a quarry for many of the modern buildings of Rome today. In fact, much of the white marble was used in the construction of the Vatican.
If you can imagine the original building at the opening ceremony, hundreds of white marble statues stood under each arch. It would have been an amazing sight.
If you get a chance to go to Rome one day, take a walk along the Via Appia Antica, a road built during the Republic’s early emergence to enable the Roman legions direct and speedy access to the southern tribes who were hostile to Rome. Along this fantastic stone road, are numerous mausoleums to various rich Roman families and you will see some with remains of the white marble I refer to. All these monuments over the centuries have had their outing casings “robbed” by builders and revealing the brickwork behind.
So many Roman writers refer to this road, lined with huge summer palaces of the rich Patricians, and the glory of the white tombs. To close the answer to your question though; the Flavians built a massive public arena for the people, and NOT for the Emperor and his family, unlike the gross PRIVATE building that Nero had built.
That is why this dynasty was important to Rome. Sadly, future Emperors were to regress to the type of behavior that Nero loved, and the title of Emperor was to be associated with autocratic and crazy behavior.
Even though subsequent Emperors also recognized the value of keeping the Plebeian families of Rome (the Mob) from revolting by putting on massive festivals at the Colosseum, the Empire was beginning to slide by the time of the 2nd Century A.D.
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The CDC has now stated that MORE THAN 75% of COVID deaths were people with at least FOUR comorbidities & were unwell to begin with. Fact Check: Does Marjorie Taylor Greene Own Stock in Three Vaccine Manufacturers? (newsweek.com)
Clearly somewhere they’ve decided they want to change the messaging surrounding COVID, because this is not NEW news. I’ve been saying it for 2 yrs.!
When people realize how many lies were told in the past two years, there will truly be no forgiveness for those who ruined so many lives and especially for those who profited off of the pain, anguish and loss. Ask yourself why this is still such an issue among some in this country. Instead of pitching in and working together to help the spread of the pandemic, there has been a constant effort to deny it, minimize it, defy efforts to control it and to weaponize it for political gain.
Clarification: I believe that CDC was only referring to deaths of vaxxed folks (75% of vaxxed folks who have died from Covid had at least 4 co-morbidities). Bring back the trials of the Roman Colosseum. Throw them in with the lions! I’ll get my popcorn. Fauci, Gedros, Macron, Witty, Drosten. Ohh my list is looooong. So many innocent people were KILLED by the people who are supposed to cure them.
Rachelle Walensky referenced a particular study that found: Of 1,228,664 people *fully vaccinated* Just 36 died of Covid-19 28 of those 36, 78%, had four or more comorbidities Walensky was asked about this study and responded by summarizing the study. Did not talk about all Covid deaths.
The study being referenced looked at 1,228,664 vaccinated people.
Only ~36 people of the 1.2+ million vaccinated people died from Covid.
Of these 36, 75% of them had at least 4 comorbidities.
The Vaccine SAVES LIVES?
When people realize how many lies were told over the past few years (including about the severity of COVID-19), there will truly be no forgiveness for those who ruined so many lives and especially for those who profited off of the pain, anguish and loss. If it were about avoiding death, they would not have blocked the use of HCQ, Ivermectin, Z Packs…and other successful treatments. Vit D and Zn also. The fact any of these preventives were demonized is CRIMINAL. Literally no reason not to use them along w/ everything else. Basically 0 risk. That’s when it was obvious it wasn’t about health Home – FLCCC | Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (covid19criticalcare.com)
Vice versa, many are now looking at another group of relatively fit, young adults, professional athletes actually, dropping in the fields of their sports with unknown heart issues. Yes, i am referring to #vaccineinjuries Vaccines aren’t meant to make you healthy though. Promoting health would be clean eating, exercising, fresh fuckin air etc.
Not boosters and shots for children who aren’t at risk!!!!
Let alone every few months!!
It can be avoided. Preferably by going after fast food, sugar, smoking, sedentarism, promoting healthy habits, healthy diet, … but not by vaxxing everyone 4 times a year. They are currently pushing vaccines on healthy children that have effectively zero risk from Covid. School closures, masks in schools.
This is all still happening with no justification. This isn’t about what I told you so. It’s about stopping the current insanity. What about the deaths due to lockdowns: suicides, overdue treatments, delayed surgeries, undiagnosed sicknesses?
I’ll wait. You do not coerce people into vaccinations, put people in lockdowns and destroy the economy because you want to save, statistically speaking, a handful of lives. Survival of the fittest IS still a thing and it’s not our job to save the weak at our expense. It does matter… I do get it. I just think it is disrespectful to negate the deaths of those who do not fit this narrative- and I’ve seen plenty! Everyone stays home forever until no one dies from anything ever.
The point is they sat on this information and purposely misled you. Yet anti vaxxers are vilified for not trusting them? No. We’re just not gullible enough to buy another car from the same slimy salesman. It’s called discernment Quit being seduced by teleprompter readers.
It’s not about what I told you, it’s about the fact they have inflated the figure to scare people!! They have lied to us, it’s not ok! The covid bubble is bursting; they’re using it to bring it under control! It does matter because we should have been working on helping those at highest risk instead of making everyone scared, they were just as susceptible.
We shut down the economy, schools and even routine medical care over a narrative that wasn’t true which ruined even more lives. Lockdowns, vaccines and masks were worthless. The economy was ruined. It was all lies. Children’s lives were ruined. It matters.
Yes, it does matter!
1000s upon 1000s of American lives have been destroyed by this lie pushed for 2 years. Adults and kids have literally become paralyzed with fear, and kids have suffered unnecessarily with schools closing and being forced to wear masks practically 24/7.
So YES! Of course, it should! Doctors, nurses, and scientists have been ignored and censored, some have even lost their license to practice, because they’ve tried to warn us about vaccines from the start. So yes, it should be about what I told you so! Of course, it matters! How many hundreds of MILLIONS of people worldwide are facing starvation because of the lies and half-truths? How many suicides?
How many special needs children denied vital face to face learning?
This matters, and there is a reckoning coming.
Yes, it does matter Consider the average age of death with covid is 85 vs average age of death (2019) of 81 Then consider the push to vax everyone no matter their age or risk factors from 0-death There are other diseases deaths out there, impacted by extreme policy
It made every single thing they told a lie. There was no pandemic.
No reason to shut the world down.
Kill small businesses. Force people to take a shot that never worked for the flu.
So yeh, it matters a lot!
Sorry, not sorry, we did tell you so.
I know several young people now permanently injured by this
. That would be totally fine getting covid. Karol no death is unavoidable. We. All. Die. Exactly.
The only thing that worries me is how arbitrary this virus can be.
It really is…. in the hospital where I work, I’ve seen some really heartbreaking deaths including a gym honed young father and a 21-year-old girl just a few weeks ago. One of my colleagues in her early 40s hasn’t been at work for around 18 months because she is so breathless. The Real issue is knowing this information instead of being fed one narrative after another for political purposes would have resulted in people taking better actions like eating better and maintaining their overall health in addition to other protective measures voluntarily.
This is true to a certain extent but does not apply to all cases. I’m sure there will be some kind of political reckoning at the end of the day but for now we’ve got to put our focus on getting through it and preventing it from happening again.
There’s no preventing government idiocy or bad choices, all we can do is educate and inspire at this point. Yes, it should. You don’t lockdown communities, close and ruin businesses, mandate vaccines and feed lie to people when it’s very rare for a healthy person to die from covid. Did you read AT LEAST 4 comorbidities? Freaking 4.
Any death that could have been avoided? The point is there have been known therapeutics for Covid and no one would prescribe them. Many of those people probably could’ve been saved with early treatment which was NOT ALLOWED and we always have deaths each year from the flu, but magically those went down and Covid deaths went up. The point is, END the and lockdowns! IT WASN’T A PANDEMIC So yea, there is a good reason to say, “I told you so”, so maybe next time people will LISTEN!
Of course, it matters. It assesses risk, and therefore treatment, medicine should be one size fits all. You’re right, but the virus has a 98-99% recovery rate for the vast majority of people. There are 21382 people who died from the vax …And? What percentage is that compared to the catastrophic mental health issues in kids? The drug abuse and suicides will skyrocket. And it may be indirect, but we know what caused it.
Yes, covid sucks but look at how it was handled. Catastrophic. I don’t disagree with that, but the actual figures could not be derived in the beginning and people were dying….
What were governments meant to do based on the first images and information coming out of Europe?
IT ABSOLUTELY MATTERS!! People for two years have been paranoid thinking
OMG if I get covid I’ll die!
It’s 100% Feed with people mentally!
Wrong. 100%. The public deserves to know the truth from The CDC and hospitals who are to be without any question apolitical. If they are proven to be political the public needs to know in order to either trust or not trust them. That’s simple. Deaths that could have been avoided if we isolated the most vulnerable & CDC told those with comorbidities such as diabetes, obesity they were vulnerable & would reduce risk of death if they changed nutrition & lifestyle. Still see bulletins celebrating obesity.
That’s the whole point: it was not necessarily avoidable. A certain number of people have died every year over the last three or five years. There’s no way that all of a sudden cancer has been cured or coronary artery disease has been cured and it’s all attributable to Covid. Of course, it matters. I have a long Covid. When I got the Delta variant in August, I was only given a Zpac. Didn’t help. Yes…it absolutely does matter. Businesses were shut down, children were kept home from school, people lost jobs because of it. Yes, it matters…
Or the cure is worse than the disease.
I know vaccinated people with long covid so… What’s your point?
That it was real and that it was dangerous, and, in the beginning, it was an unknown quantity. What were governments supposed to do watching those initial images from the first wave in Italy? No such thing as long covid. If you get the flu for a year or more, you have auto immune deficiency syndrome. But according to that argument, you’d never
go to war to defend your country from invasion from another country!
I know young people have long term effects from the
It does matter. It has never mattered to those like you who push damaging covid
policies regardless of data, reason, or results. Millions of lives destroyed don’t matter to Democrats. You are missing it entirely, you have offered a completely unmeasured and uneducated opinion, you should learn many things about the world before tossing useless opinions around @uneducatedape
I have zero comorbidities, zero mRNA shots and died zero times. Imagine that!
Death is inevitable.
A lie is a lie is a lie: No about “i told you so” …. a 5th grader could have read the Pfizer trial document and saw how they lied and manipulated data. vaccine was never very effective…yet liberals, media, democratic politicians tried to turn society against the unvaccinated.
One more thing… Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection:
A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines – PubMed (nih.gov)
Long covid could have been prevented by early treatment too. Now you SHOULD get mad as hell.
“Trust the science” is the most unscientific thing I’ve ever heard. Ever.
Trust is for cults and religion. Science bears the weight of scrutiny.
It’s not about what I told you so – it’s about transparent responses – Americans are well known for doing the right thing when presented with truth and fact. Yes, it does matter considering certain state governments like NY and CA destroyed their economies over this.
People literally live to die! We get OLD and we die. The problem is the lies, masks that don’t work, “vaccines” that don’t work, mandates, loss of freedom, destruction of children’s lives, job losses-all for what? A virus that can’t be controlled and the government downright refused to allow treatment options to force vaccines.
Go cry somewhere else. ‘Any death that can be avoided’, the irony… -drugs -alcohol -tobacco -obesity All deaths from those could be avoided too… If only they had listened.
And how do you propose they could have been prevented? Cause it’s not with masks, lockdowns, vaccines and social distancing. Maybe with treatments that were intentionally withheld by doctors, pharmacists and of course these greedy bureaucrats, big pharma etc. Damn right it matters. Lives have been destroyed by utter fools. If they would have been honest more people would have used therapeutics. Instead, they demonized Trump.
I blame the left!!
Here come the life wrecking morons who are going to tell us it’s “not about I told you so” You lockdown fanatics have destroyed millions of lives. Suicides, overdoses, and depression are all skyrocketing amongst kids bc of your lockdowns that didn’t prevent any deaths! Of course, it doesn’t matter. All those people who lost their livelihoods with businesses closed, mental health, children destroyed with isolation and of course your f-king young adults you know with long covid. Damn hypocrisy. I bet you never heard of “long flu” before 2019.
If there, aren’t I Told You So’s, these fucking idiots will do the same stupid things again and again. There is not a thing wrong with I Told You So’s when they have lied and mismanaged this situation as badly as they have.
I had a friend diagnosed with “long COVID” for about 6 months. In her 20s, healthy. Come to find out she has Lupus and didn’t know it.Walensky referenced a particular study that found had four or more comorbidities.
Walensky’s Comments on Comorbidities Among COVID-19 Deaths in Reference to Study on Vaccinated: CDC – MARK WRHEL – NEWS FOR MEN
Most COVID-19 hospitalizations are due to four conditions
At a Glance:
A study estimated that nearly two-thirds of COVID-19 hospitalizations in the
United States could be attributed to obesity, diabetes, hypertension, and heart failure.
The findings give insight into how underlying conditions contribute to hospitalizations during the pandemic.
Underlying medical conditions account for many COVID-19
hospitalizations. xavier arnau / E+ via Getty Images
Studies show that certain common medical conditions put people at higher risk for severe illness from COVID-19. These include metabolic disorders like type 2 diabetes and obesity, as well as heart conditions like high blood pressure (hypertension) and heart failure. People with these four conditions are more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19.
To better understand how these conditions affect hospitalizations, a research team led by Meghan O’Hearn and Dr. Dariush Mozaffarian of Tufts University developed a statistical model. They incorporated data on the association of these four underlying conditions with COVID-19 hospitalizations in the U.S. They also included national data on COVID-19 hospitalizations and prevalence of the conditions by age, sex, and race/ethnicity.
Based on this data, the model calculated the percentage of COVID-19 hospitalizations that could have been prevented without these four underlying conditions. Results were published in the Journal of the American Heart Association on February 25, 2021.
The researchers estimated that more than 900,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations occurred through November 2020.
Based on their model:
1. 30% of these hospitalizations were attributable to obesity,
2. 26% to hypertension, 3. 21% to diabetes, and 4. 12% to heart failure.
These people would still have been infected with COVID-19, but likely would not have been sick enough to need hospitalization.
More than one of these conditions are often present in the same person.
The model also estimated hospitalizations due to different combinations.
The numbers weren’t simply additive. In total, 64% of the hospitalizations might have been prevented if not for the four conditions.
The model suggested that COVID-19 hospitalizations due to these conditions varied by age. Older adults with diabetes, heart failure, or hypertension were more likely to be hospitalized than younger people with the same condition. However, obesity affected COVID-19 hospitalization risk similarly across age groups.
Race/ethnicity also resulted in disparities in COVID-19 hospitalizations due to these conditions. Black adults had the highest proportion of hospitalizations attributable to all four conditions at any age. Other studies show that COVID-19 deaths have disproportionately affected Black and other minority communities.
This research further highlights the burden of heart and metabolic diseases in the U.S. Almost 3 in 4 U.S. adults is overweight or obese. Nearly half of people have prediabetes or diabetes.
All of the conditions examined in the study have been shown to impair the body’s immune response. This may be one reason COVID-19 causes more harm in people with these underlying conditions. Improving heart and metabolic health may help reduce hospitalizations from COVID-19.
“Medical providers should educate patients who may be at risk for severe COVID-19 and consider promoting preventive lifestyle measures, such as improved dietary quality and physical activity, to improve overall cardiometabolic health,” says O’Hearn.
—by Erin Bryant
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References: Coronavirus Disease 2019 Hospitalizations Attributable to Cardiometabolic Conditions in the United States: A Comparative Risk Assessment Analysis. O’Hearn M, Liu J, Cudhea F, Micha R, Mozaffarian D. J Am Heart Assoc. 2021 Feb;10(5): e019259. doi: 10.1161/JAHA.120.019259. Epub 2021 Feb 25. PMID: 33629868.
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