I was having a similar conversation with a 12-year-old. His comment.
“I am finding out everything I was taught in elementary school about Thanksgiving is a lie. We are learning about the “new version” of Thanksgiving.
Unfortunately I didn’t have time to ask what that meant.
The Viking who Discovered North America
The Early Years of North America.
Leif Eriksson (also spelled Erikson or Ericson), believed to have been the first European to discover and explore the North American continent, was born most likely around 970 c.e. in Iceland. His father was the famed Erik the Red(thus Erik-son), and his mother was Thjodhild (likely of Irish origins).
Around 980 c.e, Erik the Red was exiled from Iceland for murder and sailed westward with his family to a land he had heard of, which he later called Greenland. Interestingly, Erik the Red followed in the footsteps of his own father, Thorvald Asvaldsson, who had been exiled from Norway for manslaughter, and had then fled to Iceland years ago.
More important than Christmas: 400 years of Thanksgiving
The 1621 Project: Why Thanksgiving is the quintessential American holiday
Dear American Cousins ….. you really should start taking a good hard look at yourselves. “Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered… History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present…” Orwell
Statues aren’t history. Statues are art.
“Moving a statue doesn’t mean New Yorkers will forget who Thomas Jefferson was — but some of them might learn from the controversy that the man who wrote ‘all men are created equal’ owned over 600 of his fellow humans,” Thompson said. ‘Nuff said, It still says all men. And they meant all land owning men. It still doesn’t say all citizens and it never will. You know what’s crazy is what we consider “ok” nowadays like homosexuality, was exactly the same type of way they felt about slavery 200 years ago. Yawl need to realize that.
Ya it wasn’t moral but that’s how it was… the Roman’s thought pedophilia
was normal. Removing Thomas Jefferson literally means America has fallen.
Time changes things…. There’s no America any more. A statue doesn’t mean anything. Certainly, doesn’t mean that Jefferson can’t be taught.
Or that history has stopped. Teaching the founding fathers means being honest, not lionizing them and placing them on a pedestal, 0nce everything
is digital, History will be revised instantly, according to the narrative.
George III (1738–1820) – Encyclopedia Virginia A Different Song – A Short Story –
Abraham Lopez (abelopezauthor.com)
“Our memories won’t be our own, they will belong to the narrative now.” Yep, Democrats banning books left and right, creating false narratives everywhere. Scary stuff.
So “The Big Lie”, book banning, rewriting the story of the insurrection, and gaslighting is stopping history?
There is a movement to erase US history so that the next generations of Americans forget who they are and what America stands for. It is the way communists will enslave our nation with their bad ideas. Removing statues isn’t erasing history. The patriots toppled the King George statue.
And yet…. Centuries later: we still know the history of his reign.
https://lionsmouthsociety.com/history
I like how there’s 100 years missing of a native wronging.
The Great Reset of White people and black people knowing
America started with their oppression
So in the spirit of Thanksgiving are you going to teach your kids what the real pilgrims called themselves and wore?
Or are you cool with that history being falsified, rewritten, and repainted if it makes you feel good about yourself?
I don’t think Orwell would have appreciated having his quote used in this context, probably it would be more accurate to use it to describe the revision of history .
Let me check my history book and the thousand of books written about Jefferson…. yup he still existed even without a statue and the cool thing is…. wait for it….. I can read about him. Wow, almost like he is still there in history. Oh no it’s the end of history! We will be living in an Orwellian hellscape! They’re preserving history by placing the statue in a building that’s expressly for that purpose!
THE HORRORRRRRR!!!
Suddenly nobody will remember who Thomas Jefferson was, now that his statue is in a museum rather than in front of a building I’d never been to!
This isn’t Orwell. Nobody cared about history before, now some people do and are reacting the way you’d expect. This is progress. There’s plenty of material about Thomas Jefferson (and others) out there, even in exhibit form. Have you visited the AA museum in DC, where Jefferson is featured?
What about Monticello?
Perhaps around it we should erect 600 statues, one for every slave he owned in his lifetime. Tell me you haven’t actually read Orwell,
without telling me you haven’t actually read Orwell.
Trump said Washington & Jefferson statues will be next?
Surely then you can educate us on the “actual point” of the book, since apparently zero of it has anything to do with brainwashing/thought reform/thought control and totalitarianism. Look, its “history”, and it is NOT intended to represent contemporary values. It is intended to honor a man who in his contemporary time owned slaves. Not unusual for the time. This does not devalue his contribution to both the past and the present.
Quoting Orwell. Really?!?! I suspect he would’ve had some choice things to say about the actions of some in the Republican Party right now – especially those denying the evidence of their own eyes when it came to Jan 6 (Pelosi’s Mob Mentality Started the Insurrection etc.)
I’m sure Orwell would have choice things to say about both parties. It’s not one sides fault, it’s both. And until we can see that, finger pointing will continue and nothing effective will get done.
There is a distinction between revising history and providing reference to an individual or event. This statue is being preserved, just moved from reverence. Your histrionics in equating these is disingenuous, at best. I mean, didn’t all that already happen during Jim Crow?
Make excuses for people who own people in the land of the free “brehs.”
Time to tell the truth about our messy, dirty history….
ImAlive y’all I’m Allin … Init to win it!!!
We must fight this enemy from within. This is the first step towards dismantling our Country and its Constitution. God’s people must stand up! Remember what God says to his people. It frankly is not clear of the point-
he is making. Tradition, as the saying goes, is just peer pressure from dead people. The present generation should not be bound by laws instituted by a previous generation?
“Through me (God) all things are possible!”
Prayer and faith can stop the evil that plagues us!
Discussions are the pros & cons of moving Jefferson statues interest far more than nonsensical debates about Confederate statues. The latter should never have been erected in the public square IMO. But Jefferson is an intellectual favorite of mine; I need to dig in on the issues. Founders Online: The Earth Belongs in Usufruct to the Living (archives.gov)
You were one of the historians cited by NBC news a few years ago with a false claim about President Trump’s prediction. Will you publicly admit that you were wrong, and that Trump was right? Statues of Washington, Jefferson Aren’t ‘Next,’ But It’s Complicated, Historians Say (nbcnews.com)
Start with “Master of the Mountain” by Wiencek.
Maybe the ghosts of Burr and Hamilton reconciled in order to have a statue of a guy they both despised, removed. NYC is their city.
.#Madison disagreed: “My first thoughts, though coinciding with many of yours, lead me to view the doctrine as not in all respects compatible with the course of human affairs…Would not such a periodical revision engender pernicious factions…?” From James Madison to Thomas Jefferson, 4 February 1790 (archives.gov)
Thomas Jefferson statue leaves City Hall after 187 years (nypost.com)
Jefferson rewrote the bible: “I am increasingly persuaded that the earth belongs exclusively to the living.
That one generation has no more right to bind another to its laws and judgments. Nor one independent nation has the right to command another.”–Thomas Jefferson
Except no one is erasing history, just removing a statue of someone who was tangential to NY. When it came to human freedom and liberty, Jefferson just talked the talk…
A lot of people wrote down all the shit he did and included a lot more information
than anyone could grasp from a statue.
Just because it’s being taken away from the public eye is not erasure.
If you read the article, it’s literally going to the New York Historical Society. Has anyone actually read the article?
“The 1833 statue will be on a long-term loan to the New York Historical Society, which plans to have Jefferson’s model survive in its lobby and reading room.”
This is just like:
Amazon.com: Master of the Mountain: Thomas Jefferson and His Slaves.
Fortunately, that never happened, hence the statue removal. “Erasing history” would be scrubbing all evidence that Jefferson owned slaves. Yes! And As great historian Bluto states “the Germans Bombed Pearl Harbor”. “We will probably be judged not by the monuments we build but by those we have destroyed.” ~ The New York Times, 1963 Time to end “revisionist history” and its historical statues of fallacies in modern society.
Are you saying to rewrite the rewritten history to make it accurate?
A little more accurate is the problem or the fact that it has been reported incorrectly from the beginning is the problem. Or, more people these days are offended that Jefferson held slaves and almost certainly raped at least one of them. History, and life, are messy. Get a grip. The guy from Kentucky who voted to bankrupt our nation multiple times wants us to know he is deeply concerned about what is happening in a city in another state and how it’s a grave threat to our country.
Teach history in classrooms. Statue has absolutely nothing to do with history-
I don’t get the controversy. He owned slaves. He should not have a public statue glorification just because he was in charge of the country at one point. Jefferson’s on the fuckin’ money, dude! Was kicking a hornet’s nest and running for your security detail part of your special #Republican oath @RepThomasMassie
Yah. We are getting there. I went to Gettysburg a few weeks ago and saw that any image of the confederate flag was nowhere to be found on any books, pictures or displays. Are there Nazi flags all other the part of Dunkirk or the D-day landing sites? This is what the conversation really should have been about when they started removing Confederate Statues, not that I cared. They were not going to stop with confederate statues. When you want to take over a nation, change it, that nation’s history must go.
Jefferson Statue Removed for Imperfect Past (thewashingtonwick.com)
This is Sinister beyond belief…Even the Mega corps must now recognize
this is the end of even their wealth. A truly centralized evil will never be good for anyone. The Big fish always eat the little fish for now they share but not forever. Minions’ seats always get yanked. 1984 is a great fiction novel to read but it seems like it is becoming the reality we are currently living under more and more each day. Millennials don’t care about statues unless the statue is a NFT of a statue. What makes you pinpoint Millennials in any of this? Do you think this is a “brand new” movement? People of conscience have been fighting this fight for decades and decades! The “next” generation is pushing these issues. The old regime would not make fake news and let national monuments get destroyed or even make criminals the victims. They’ll figure it out soon enough when they realize the monster they created. Removing statues is actually creating more history. Don’t worry about it. When this happens in the UK just remember that they are lumps of metal.. Why the Jefferson Statue Needs to Stay Up in New York (rumble.com)
Thomas Jefferson is the R. Kelly of the American Enlightenment.
Thomas Jefferson was a philandering rapist who enslaved hundreds, and had a family with his wife’s half-sister. But he was president. Maybe it would have been better to leave the statue and put up a plaque telling the WHOLE truth, good and bad, about him. The Constitution is next. Cancelling Enlightenment principles has always been in the Democrat’s target. I really wish we’d start removing the crybabies instead of the history… it doesn’t define who we are, but it helped mold us into the greatest country on earth.
The good, the bad, and the ugly are all part of what built America. Unbelievable. #wakeupAmerica You find this problematic? How about states crafting history into some prostate spin? Speak out against one, speak out against all or you lack intellectual integrity! I’ve never seen a statue of Adam Smith, Edmund Burke, or Joseph de Maistre but somehow was able to study them and their works without bearing personal witness to their bronze,
pigeon-shit covered likeness in the public square.
Quit being so feckless and thirsty.
Funny how the right rewrites textbooks to cover the atrocities and wrongs the US has committed with no issue, but god forbid a statue of someone “George Floyd” who did bad is moved to a museum instead of govt grounds so their history can be better explained by “rewriting history!! The Four Olds: Erasing history is the symptom of a failing society.
“One of the early objectives of the Cultural Revolution in China … was to wipe out the ‘four olds’—old things, old ideas, old customs and old habits. “The ‘four olds’ had already suffered setbacks in the years of Communist rule preceding the Cultural Revolution, but the Maoist leadership tried to use the new revolutionary upsurge launched in 1966 to eliminate them completely.
We are, for all of our flaws, the greatest country on Earth and we owe a debt to our Founding Fathers for the blessings we receive every day. We can fix what is wrong without erasing what is right. Those who knew about this should have been building an expansive personal library of OLD editions of books, published works, reference materials to hold these GODless souls accountable. WHY do the ELITE have such libraries?
They KNOW. Do it now or lose your history forever.
George Orwell 1984 full book – Bing video
Just secede if you don’t like wiping shit stains off the American flag 👊
Problem is, the majority of people are asleep at the wheel. Worried about a Sunday football, mean tweets, “global warming”, the “flu”, to see that our very foundation is being destroyed. The frog is in comfortably warm water at the moment.
Part of the requirements to the Davos plan is to install halfwits in all positions of power. Don’t say its ORWELLIAN that’s Defeatism & a Permissive invitation to speak in the past tense.
It’s Ridiculous. It’s Not ORWELLIAN it’s “Liberal SLOTHS” who Want Everything for Nothing! Chinese immigrant parents on communism in America. School Board Meeting – Clifton Park, N.Y.
Read about Red August and the Red Guard in 1966 China today.
Cancel culture/history. How that all evolved, the slaughters, etc.
Interesting and recommend it to you and your followers if you haven’t read.
The Cultural Revolution (Part 3) | The China History Podcast | Ep. 85
The Revolution is Eternal.
When people lack critical thinking, they sure do like referencing books they didn’t read
History will repeat itself, especially if we forget our past mistakes-my observations of current events. “There is no history from before The Revolution, and any that is allowed to remain is useful to The Revolution.”Pray for #DivineIntervention Quite sad, watching our Country destroyed
from within…and by the very people who took an Oath to Protect & Defend
.
The new line by the communists for anybody who disagrees or has an opinion is they’re a threat to our democracy. Lol with these very scumbags destroying our democracy.
This country is actually a Constitutional Republic not a democracy,
but I agree they are destroying our country. Everything they accuse Republicans or conservatives of doing is what they are actually doing!
Plus, Obama has an agreement with Secretary of Labor Marty Walsh to get more minorities into the workplace by getting whites to replace themselves through this chaos they have created?
Dnesh D’Souza had a segment on rewriting history. His wife is from Venezuela and they did that down there when Chavez came to power. You are so right, Mr. Massie. So was Orwell, all those years ago. One of my ~Anonymous followers stated, “Lost my job as a Federal Contractor this week.
Eagle vs. Turkey: America’s First Bird Controversy
Was Turkey Almost the National Bird of America? | Bald Eagle vs Turkey.
Did you know that the original choice for America’s National Symbol was not the bald eagle?
Find out which bird it was, and how the eagle was chosen. Nations often adopt animals as symbols: England has its lion, India its peacock. On the afternoon
of July 4, 1776, just after the signing of the Declaration of Independence, the Continental Congress appointed a committee made up of Thomas Jefferson, John Adams and Benjamin Franklin to select a design for an official national seal.
Bald Eagle | 5 FACTS
The three patriots had different ideas and none of them included the bald eagle. They finally agreed on a drawing of the woman Liberty holding a shield to represent the states. But the members of Congress weren’t inspired by the design and they consulted with William Barton, a Philadelphia artist who produced a new design that included a golden eagle. Because the golden eagle also flew over European nations, however, the federal lawmakers specified that the bird in the seal should be an American bald eagle.
On June 20, 1782, they approved the design that we recognize today.
At the time, the new nation was still at war with England, and the fierce-looking bird seemed to be an appropriate emblem. But from the start, the eagle was a controversial choice. Franklin scowled at it. “For my part,” he declared,
“I wish the eagle had not been chosen as the representative of this country.
He is a bird of bad moral character; he does not get his living honestly.
You may have seen him perched in some dead tree where, too lazy to fish for himself, he watches the labor of the fishing hawk and, when that diligent bird has at length taken a fish and is bearing it to his nest for his young ones, the bald eagle pursues him and takes the fish. With all this injustice, he is never in a good situation.”
5 FACTS | Wild Turkey
Some people have since questioned whether the eagle would have been chosen to adorn the seal had the nation not been at war. A year after the Treaty of Paris ended the conflict with Great Britain, Franklin argued that the turkey would have been a more appropriate symbol. “A much more respectable bird and a true native of America,” he pointed out. Franklin conceded that the turkey was “a little vein and silly,” but maintained that it was nevertheless a “bird of courage” that “would not hesitate to attack a grenadier of the British guards who should presume to invade his farm yard with a red coat on.” Congress was not convinced, however. The eagle remained our national symbol.
In truth, both the turkey and the bald eagle are native to the Americas.
But if the issue is a bird that represents our nation, Americans can’t really lay exclusive claim to either species, since both traditionally ranged in Canada and Mexico as well.
Religious Exemption denied, and fired. Things are not looking up.”
Elevation Worship – RATTLE! (With lyrics) (2020)
Today I am thankful for AMERICA in all her glory. Tomorrow — I’ll go back to fighting to keep her that way HAPPY THANKSGIVING!