Dr. Robert Lanza is the man. His stem cell research is ahead of anyone else. Then there is “Biocentrism”, Consciousness is the answer. The double slit experiment screams out, look at me, figure out why this is so. And if we can, I think we will jump light years ahead.
I do not care if the interviewer agrees with Lanza or not, but it would have been nice if he at least understood what the was trying to say.
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Lanza for his part doesn’t seem to know how to explain things in a way the interviewer can grasp though I think he is actually being clear. He is saying the big bang is only an extrapolation based on the way we think, the logic of which totally breaks down when you go all the way back, and I have to assume he is saying that, therefore, wasn’t an actual event.
The interviewer himself says that before the big bang there was no matter so there was no time, parroting the view of our present paradigm. But then he insists the “moment” before the big bang is an important question. I wanted to grab him by the ears and say, dude, you just said there was no time before the big bang so how can there be a moment before the big bang? When you are talking moments you are talking about time, and that is what Lanza is saying; the logic of the old paradigm totally breaks down if you run it back to its supposed beginning.
Lanza is saying neither our minds nor our languages are smoothly up to the task of dealing with reality at anything but the Newtonian physics level, the world we live in as animal beings. The rules and logic we operate on at that level are not reality but mental constructs, most basically space and time. Space and time are not things “out there.” They have no existence apart from being tools of our minds, hence we create space and time.
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This is simply the mode in which we express our experience. It isn’t “the reality.”
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We are taking some of the evidence we see and forcing into these limited constructs, extrapolating back by the logic of those constructs we arrive at the big bang. That’s the only way to come to the big bang theory, but if so then the big bang was not an actual happening but merely a deduction of certain bits of evidence from the perspective of the prevailing paradigm.
I say based on certain “bits” on information because you have to ignore other bits of information to make the present paradigm hold water, such as those that come from the experiments Lanza mentions in which things happen that contradict the logic of the present paradigm. The way physicists have tried to escape these contradictions is to say, well there is really two sets of scientific laws both of which are true though the contradict each other. Lanza is saying no, that is nonsense. There is only one reality so one of them isn’t reality, and he is saying it is the one based on space and time as things out there.
He is proposing that what the evidence suggests is that a theory of everything not be sought on stuff based physics because essentially it has already proven itself to be wrong if we care to notice these other bits of information. He is proposing a new paradigm based on life and consciousness, which this information is suggesting. I think it is an important thought and a step in the right direction. Lanza is in the unenviable situation of having explain to others concepts that he himself is struggling to express. This way of thinking is in its infancy. We lack the language to express ideas that are as yet foreign to our present way of thinking.
We lack the reference points needed to understand more fully. The reasons this path needs to be explored I think are quite clear. It is going to be a difficult path. Here we feel like strangers in a strange land. Lanza avoids, rightly so I think, dealing with how this impacts ideas about God in biocentrism, but if life and conscious is that which all other things arise, then the idea of a super being, a super consciousness is certainly not out of the question.
In my own thinking that is were I have been for some time; that we are part of that consciousness and that as a whole that consciousness is self aware be definition, and if you want to call it God, then I have no objection, though I would hesitate to connect the concepts of any religion with that being, though certainly some spiritual concepts up around which religions grew may certainly aid in our understanding if only by analogy.
Whether or not we see true reality clearly or not, it must be true that it is all around us, and as we ourselves are conscious, living beings that we might glimpse pieces of it and have our thoughts influenced by it seem unavoidable. I certainly think Lanza is right about one thing (and likely many): the idea that the consciousness we are ends at death is absolutely absurd.
Anthony Terry the chemical compound for empathy is serotonin and theres other cells that cause mirror image connections in the brain which in turn cause people to feel what they are seeing in others.. They find in serial killers that most of the time they lack empathy, as a result of extremely low levels of serotonin .. I personally believe serotonin and endorphins cause morality or humanity.. Personally, I have no empathy..at all..I feel nothing, never have,maybe never will, without use of drugs.. but when I dis take m.d.m.a it caused a flood of the chemicals I lack(,serotonin,endorphins) causing me to feel things for the first time ever, empathy being the main feeling I had.. I do believe chemicals are the reason for why we feel anything at all.. An evolutionary trait to stop us from killing off one another and causing us to instead work together to thrive.. Nature changed from survival of the fittest, to everyone works together to achieve the common goal of survival. All this, just by evolving a chemical into the human brain.
So, this also means the dinosaurs weren’t actually there until a conscious being found their bones, which weren’t actually there either. Does that mean that the conscious being made up the bones and decided there were dinosaurs?
There’s no compelling evidence of a big bang, and complexity theory says there’s no way we’ll ever know. Per Halton Arp’s work, red shift indicates youth, not distance, though most distant objects are seen in their youth. So there probably is no inflation at all. And big bang hangs entirely on inflation, and of course a miracle, where “nothing exploded”.
What I really don’t understand is why, if consciousness is the center of everything (that is, us and other animals), why are the creators of physical reality stranded on earth? Why is the universe so inimical to our survival? Why are there so many inhabitable planets, etc.?
31:00 the conversation has me thinking: As dinosaurs began to sprout feathers millions of “years” ago,to eventually evolve & leave the ground in flight as we see today – so we, as humans may evolve to command time & space from within ~ outward. Certainly, this could happen.
Between 1963 to 1984 the north american psychic medium, Jane Roberts channeled an “energy personality essence” who was called Seth. The Seth Material describes soundly and elegantly all what biocentrism propose and much more. I very recommend it to those who want to understand the nature of reality and our role in it.
Logic didn’t exist until we did, so to think of a logical time before the brain is illogical.
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We cannot experience our own reality unless that there is an observer. Truth can only be know when we allow ourself to be removed from the discussion. Truth is nothing more than a consensus. A true objective reality is very hard to prove; it seems critical in its application to scientific thought, but a greater understanding of the nature of existence cant exclude subjective, sentience, experience and perspective. Yes, as humans we all share the same consciousness. But what people don’t understand is Robert is referring to ALL life on Earth, that is why you see fossils as that was life that came before humans, but even dinosaurs had consciousness as well.
Well, it may seem so. But “we are all the same”? Certainly not. “The same” means identical. And that is not the case. Observation tells us that there are in fact differences and there are similarities. What we all have in common, humans that is, are destructive impulses. Only in that respect are we “all the same”. Look around and convince yourself whether this is true or not.
And in answer to your question, “how come we all see the same things”, the simple answer is AGREEMENT. Reality comes about by agreement. We all, or life for that matter, agrees that things are perceived a certain way which brings about the reality we all see. It is not conscious process, mostly so. But that, in short, is about the underlying principle.
I would like to see Dr Lanza sit down with Mehran Keshe and see who has a better understanding of things in this regard.
The point of consciousness evolution is to lower the entropy thru experience and love INFORMATION IS NON PHISICAL AND SUBJECTIVE AS CONCIOUSNESS IS NON PHISICAL AND SUBJECTIVE. IT IS THE COMPUTER. INFORMATION IS THE MEANING. It takes consciousness to process the information. EMOTIONS ARE THE FEEDBACK MACHANISM FOR CONCIOUSNESS. Prayer is your focused intent that changes your future probability. God, Jesus, Buddah, Mohammed, Babaji are just interpretations of the LCS larger consciousness system. Sounds like blank cheque isn’t it?… mmmmm lrt me think… I am not completely sold on Metaphysics.
The non physical realities cannot be proven scientifically with 3D tools because they are not part of this reality. Subset cannot define a larger superset. Same what Thomas Campbell says too. To measure it, you have to go there thru personal experience. The ultimate theory of relativity is every reference frame is relative and solid in your reality. That is why dreams seem so real. Depending where you are that is your ‘solid” reality or objective. There is not fundamental objective reality, is all relative. The only fundamental reality is ONLY consciousness. squirrel in the tree analogy makes me think about Robert Lanza on Biocentrism. Listen to Thomas Campbell that has same analogy.
Tom Campbell in Calgary: Theory of MBT (Sat) 2/3